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Old Jan 10, 2007, 11:56 PM // 23:56   #1
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Default New Title: Balthazar's Steward

This new title is inspired by all other people who have UAX, and can't earn any more Bathazar Faction because they have nothing they can spend it on. The solution then, is to be able to donate Balthazar Faction to a Priest of Balthazar for the benefit of a title, not entirely unlike donating Kurzick and Luxon Faction. In theory, a raise in the Balthazar Faction cap could be added for each rank given, but that can be debated.

Ranks are as follows: (numbers indicate Bathazar Faction Donated)

200,000 - Balthazar's Steward
400,000 - Balthazar's Emissary
800,000 - Balthazar's Agent
1,500,000 - Balthazar's Hand
2,500,000 - Balthazar's Will

I'm currently UAX, and earning Balthazar faction for anything, even a title like this, would improve my current enjoyment of the game greatly.

What do you guys think?
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Old Jan 11, 2007, 12:01 AM // 00:01   #2
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That be pretty cool. But i think the titles should go higher then that :P
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Old Jan 11, 2007, 12:23 AM // 00:23   #3
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that would be awesome title
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Old Jan 11, 2007, 12:44 AM // 00:44   #4
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yeah the snowball fights gave 100 per kill......

but i would love having this title.very good idea.
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Old Jan 11, 2007, 01:46 AM // 01:46   #5
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I rofl-ed at "Balthazar's Steward"

I know what you're saying, but somehow I can't help but think this is a stupid idea. I used to buy into this crap, but now with the addition of more PVP titles other than plain Rank, we don't need this. If you want a title for PVP then get Hero, Gladiator, Champion, Commander, Friend of the Luxons, Friend of the Kurzicks, or maybe even Skillz. They have a title for each form of PVP so if you're doing good in it, you shouldn't have any problem. And in addition, if you play in each and gain titles your balthazar faction cap goes up allowing you to unload more when the next chapter comes out.
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Old Jan 11, 2007, 03:02 AM // 03:02   #6
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I like the idea as once you hit the limit of unlocks you can earn no more faction till a new chapter comes out.
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Old Jan 11, 2007, 07:11 AM // 07:11   #7
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I don't like the idea as once you hit the limit of unlocks you can earn no more faction till a new chapter comes out. It gives the feeling of wasted efficiency, like earning more money when you have no more method of storaging this money.

Does not really have to be a title, I just do not think we ever had to have everything unlocked. The permanent double over the already doubled faction rates (might be even more than quadruple the original rate) made us (well, at least me) earn faction WAY TOO FAST. I've been unlocking skills in a rate never felt, from which most will never actually find a place on my skill bar, I've even fully unlocked professions I have NEVER played seriously. I don't like to unlock skills because I have to in order to continue gaining Faction.

Well, hopefully you get my viewpoint otherwise I'll be flamed for merely having a different viewpoint.

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Old Jan 11, 2007, 07:23 AM // 07:23   #8
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I say said Balth points should count toward Alliance Faction as well. That would be nice.
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Old Jan 11, 2007, 09:10 AM // 09:10   #9
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That would be awesome, I'd love a title like that.
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Old Jan 11, 2007, 05:54 PM // 17:54   #10
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So if someone was to buy all of the PvP skills instead of unlocking them through faction points they now have earned the right to use those worthless points for a title?

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Old Jan 11, 2007, 05:59 PM // 17:59   #11
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So if someone was to buy all of the PvP skills instead of unlocking them through faction points they now have earned the right to use those worthless points for a title?

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Did you even bother to read it?

Dont think of it so much as a title as it is a way to still earn already earned faction. If you no longer have anything to unlock you simply cannot gain any faction whatsoever.
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Old Jan 11, 2007, 08:37 PM // 20:37   #12
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I like the idea but i don't like that you have to donate it like Alliance faction. I would like it if you gained a title for earning it but have another way of disposing of the faction.

You could have the option of donating it but to gain like double the amount for donating instead of just earning it and spending it on something else. Because of this, the titles could go higher so that the people who have UAX can use their faction to get a better title.

You could push all the titles up and have the one at 200,000 faction something like Balthazar's servant and another one on the end at 5,000,000. When you get to 5,000,000 you could have unlimited Balthazar faction and unlock special upgrades for weapons or armour for pvp characters like a Balthazar's Sword - like a pvp sword but does an extra 2 damage and armour with Balthazar in it's name that has +10 armour.

Just ideas

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Old Jan 11, 2007, 10:13 PM // 22:13   #13
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For clarification, anyone can donate any amount of faction at any time, regardless of how much they have or have not unlocked, or what method they used.

Useless faction (faction you can't spend) is exactly that... useless. It doesn't have to be useless, though. Giving the ability to spent it towards a title would make it not useless.

Unlocking a skill or upgrade with faction is a reward. Once you're out of rewards and your cap is full, you can't earn any more faction and there are no more rewards to redeem. This would be a viable option to let you get some sort of small, consistant reward for PvP efforts beyond UAX. It's not as arbitrary as, say, a title that simply tells how much faction you've earned/spent because any one person can only spend so much.

I've also heard plenty of other suggestions to give another option parallel to this title, to be able to trade in 3k faction for one Flame of Balthazar. These could then be used by yourself later, traded to other players, or given to guildies if they don't have enough faction to unlock certain skills. Of course, this option would make having a high faction cap mostly irrelivant.
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Old Jan 11, 2007, 10:26 PM // 22:26   #14
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Originally Posted by Ares_Inferno
I like the idea but i don't like that you have to donate it like Alliance faction. I would like it if you gained a title for earning it but have another way of disposing of the faction.

You could have the option of donating it but to gain like double the amount for donating instead of just earning it and spending it on something else. Because of this, the titles could go higher so that the people who have UAX can use their faction to get a better title.

You could push all the titles up and have the one at 200,000 faction something like Balthazar's servant and another one on the end at 5,000,000. When you get to 5,000,000 you could have unlimited Balthazar faction and unlock special upgrades for weapons or armour for pvp characters like a Balthazar's Sword - like a pvp sword but does an extra 2 damage and armour with Balthazar in it's name that has +10 armour.

Just ideas

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I actually do like the idea because there's currently no title for total balthazar faction and this kind of fits that niche.
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Old Jan 12, 2007, 11:43 AM // 11:43   #15
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I already suggested that in "continued rewards for factions" thread. It sucks that when you make a thread it eventually just ends up on page 16 or so and an idea always gets repeated, not like "search" can stop it since it wont catch it in page 16.
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Old Jan 12, 2007, 02:29 PM // 14:29   #16
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Originally Posted by Ares_Inferno
I like the idea but i don't like that you have to donate it like Alliance faction. I would like it if you gained a title for earning it but have another way of disposing of the faction.

You could have the option of donating it but to gain like double the amount for donating instead of just earning it and spending it on something else. Because of this, the titles could go higher so that the people who have UAX can use their faction to get a better title.

You could push all the titles up and have the one at 200,000 faction something like Balthazar's servant and another one on the end at 5,000,000. When you get to 5,000,000 you could have unlimited Balthazar faction and unlock special upgrades for weapons or armour for pvp characters like a Balthazar's Sword - like a pvp sword but does an extra 2 damage and armour with Balthazar in it's name that has +10 armour.

Just ideas

/signed
you are pushing in the direction of WoW.. as in people who play the game for longer have stronger weapons, meaning that new people cant beat them, so new people cant do s***, and older players just completely run them over >.<"

but i like the idea of the title.. it can help people getting into guilds, and more faction available..
i am UAX, and hate it because:
1.my faction is sooooooo close to 2mil.. cant get it because im capped..
2.when in HA, and something dies.. i dont know if we kill a pet or a person! im always asking sounding like an idiot "was that a pet, or person that died?!"




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